glaucoides & kumlieni(last update: October 12, 2011) |
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Iceland & Kumlien's Gull 3cy January - February(Chris Gibbins) Here are some thoughts on 2nd winter kumlieni versus glaucoides that
may help with birds in Western Europe. To preface these observations, I should add
that I'm not really too experienced with kumlieni (so can't speak from long
term experience with many birds), but I do look closely at all the 2nd winter I get nervous with 2nd winter white-winged birds because I see large variability in birds Birds like this last one are often discussed as kumlieni candidates, partly or wholly So, my working model in Scotland falls back on what we have known for a long time, namely that kumlieni in Newfoundland are not just dark, but have Of course this is not new, but some statistics help emphasise the point. I've just done a count, and 32 from 33 2nd winter kumlieni from Newfoundland that I have in my collection show this pattern. And it is not just the dark ones - even very pale/otherwise white kumlieni show this (e.g. this bird). Bigger sample would be better, but this high % is persuasive. On the darker (assumed) glaucoides I see here in NE Scotland, the
intensity of shading is uniform across all primaries, so they lack the So, until we know more about 'dark glaucoides' I work with a rather a If I apply these criteria, then I've only seen one good 2nd winter kumlieni here in These points, made by Chris, are agreed upon by Bruce Mactavish, who sees lot of kumlieni in Newfoundland, where he lives. He did notice on some of the
suspect Kumlien's from various parts of Europe in the last few |
Iceland Gull (kumlieni) 2nd cycle (3CY) C4 January 23 2013, Quidi Vidi Lake, St. John's, Newfoundland. Picture: Peter Adriaens. | |
Iceland Gull (kumlieni) 2nd cycle (3CY) C9 January 23 2013, Quidi Vidi Lake, St. John's, Newfoundland. Picture: Peter Adriaens. | ||
3cy birds with pale outer primaries: classic glaucoides |
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Iceland Gull (glaucoides) 3cy, January 14 2011, Fraserburgh, Scotland. Pictures: Chris Gibbins. | ||
Iceland Gull (glaucoides) 3cy, January 14-28 2010, Fraserburgh, Scotland. Pictures: Chris Gibbins. | ||
Iceland Gull (glaucoides) 3cy, January 25 2009, Peterhead, Scotland. Pictures: Chris Gibbins. | ||
Iceland Gull (glaucoides) 3cy, February 05 2012, Peterhead, Scotland. Pictures: Chris Gibbins. | ||
Iceland Gull (glaucoides) 3cy, February 05 2012, Peterhead, Scotland. Pictures: Chris Gibbins. | ||
Iceland Gull (glaucoides) 3cy, February 05 2012, Peterhead, Scotland. Pictures: Chris Gibbins. | ||
Iceland Gull (glaucoides) 3cy, February 21 2008, Peterhead, Scotland. Pictures: Chris Gibbins. | ||
Iceland Gull (glaucoides) 3cy, February 05 2012, Peterhead, Scotland. Pictures: Chris Gibbins. | ||
Iceland Gull (glaucoides) 3cy, February 11 2012, Peterhead, Scotland. Pictures: Chris Gibbins. | ||
Iceland Gull (glaucoides) 3cy, February 11 2012, Peterhead, Scotland. Pictures: Chris Gibbins. | ||
Iceland Gull (glaucoides) 3cy, February 11 2012, Peterhead, Scotland. Pictures: Chris Gibbins. | ||
Iceland Gull (glaucoides) 3cy, February 11 2012, Peterhead, Scotland. Pictures: Chris Gibbins. | ||
Iceland Gull (glaucoides) 3cy, February 12 2012, Peterhead, Scotland. Pictures: Chris Gibbins. | ||
Iceland Gull (glaucoides) 3cy, February 10 2012, near Reykjavik - SW Iceland. Picture: Ómar Runólfsson. | ||
Iceland Gull (glaucoides) 3cy, February 10 2012, near Reykjavik - SW Iceland. Picture: Ómar Runólfsson. | ||
Iceland Gull (glaucoides) 3cy, January 08 - 27 2012, Katwijk, the Netherlands. Pictures: Ed Schouten, Rene van Rossum, Jaap Engberts & Luuk Wanders. | ||
Iceland Gull (glaucoides) 3cy, January 24 2012, Petten, the Netherlands. Pictures: Theo Muusse & Rob Halff. | ||
Iceland Gull (glaucoides) 3cy, January 14 2012, Peterhead, Scotland. Picture: Chris Gibbins. | ||
Iceland Gull (glaucoides) 3cy, January 29 2012, Ouddorp, the Netherlands. Pictures: Pim Wolf. | ||
Iceland Gull (glaucoides) 3cy, February 01-22 2012, Vlissingen, the Netherlands. Pictures: Pim Wolf, Theo Muusse & Thomas Luiten. | ||
Iceland Gull (glaucoides) 3cy, February 20 2012, Dordrecht, the Netherlands. Pictures: Hans Gebuis & Theo Muusse. | ||
Iceland Gull (glaucoides) 3cy, January 24 2012, Petten, the Netherlands. Pictures: Ruud Brouwer. | ||
Iceland Gull (glaucoides) 3cy, January 29-31 2012, Urk, the Netherlands. Pictures: Albert de Jong, Karel Mauer & Theo Muusse. | ||
Iceland Gull (glaucoides) 3cy, February 03-04 2012, Leeuwarden, the Netherlands. Pictures: Hiele Lootsma & Sjuul Verhaegh & Jos Welbedacht. | ||
Iceland Gull (glaucoides) 3cy, January 28 2012, Eemshaven, the Netherlands. Picture: M Woortman. | ||
overall dark birds, with inner primaries darker than outers, probably glaucoides |
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Iceland Gull (glaucoides) 3cy, February 06 2008, Peterhead, Scotland. Pictures: Chris Gibbins. | ||
Iceland Gull (glaucoides) 3cy, January 30 2010, Fraserburgh, Scotland. Pictures: Chris Gibbins. | ||
Iceland Gull (glaucoides) 3cy, January 14 2012, Peterhead, Scotland. Picture: Chris Gibbins. | ||
Iceland Gull (glaucoides) 3cy, January 21-22 2012, Den Oever, the Netherlands. Pictures: M. Martens, Rob Halff, Cock Reijnders & Herman Bouman. | ||
Iceland Gull (glaucoides) 3cy, January 25 2009, Peterhead, Scotland. Picture: Chris Gibbins. | ||
overall pale birds in Newfoundland, kumlieni |
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Kumlien's Gull (kumlieni) 3cy, February 06 2007, St John's, Newfoundland, Canada. Picture: Chris Gibbins | ||
Kumlien's Gull (kumlieni) 3cy A5 February 27 2012, St John's, Newfoundland, Canada. Picture: Bruce Mactavish. About 20 kumlieni ringed this winter. | ||
Kumlien's Gull (kumlieni) 3cy C2 January 27 2012, St John's, Newfoundland, Canada. Picture: Bruce Mactavish. | ||
Kumlien's/Iceland Gull 3cy / 4cy, January 24 2012, St John's, Newfoundland, Canada. Picture: Bruce Mactavish. | ||
Kumlien's Gull (kumlieni) 3cy, February 02 2012, St John's, Newfoundland, Canada. Picture: Dave Brown. | ||
Kumlien's Gull (kumlieni) 3cy, January 27 2012, St John's, Newfoundland, Canada. Picture: Bruce Mactavish. | ||
Kumlien's Gull (kumlieni) 3cy, January 05 2012, St John's, Newfoundland, Canada. Picture: Dave Brown. | ||
Kumlien's Gull (kumlieni) 3cy, January 05 2012, St John's, Newfoundland, Canada. Picture: Dave Brown. | ||
Kumlien's Gull (kumlieni) 3cy, January 24 2012, St John's, Newfoundland, Canada. Picture: Bruce Mactavish. | ||
Kumlien's Gull (kumlieni) 3cy, January 27 2012, St John's, Newfoundland, Canada. Picture: Bruce Mactavish. | ||
Kumlien's Gull (kumlieni) 3cy, January 27 2012, St John's, Newfoundland, Canada. Picture: Bruce Mactavish. | ||
Kumlien's Gull (kumlieni) 3cy, January 27 2012, St John's, Newfoundland, Canada. Picture: Bruce Mactavish. | ||
Kumlien's Gull (kumlieni) 3cy, January 27 2012, St John's, Newfoundland, Canada. Picture: Bruce Mactavish. | ||
Kumlien's Gull (kumlieni) 3cy, January 24 2012, St John's, Newfoundland, Canada. Picture: Bruce Mactavish. | ||
Kumlien's Gull (kumlieni) 3cy, February 16 2012, St John's, Newfoundland, Canada. Picture: Dave Brown. | ||
Kumlien's Gull (kumlieni) 3cy, January 24 2012, St John's, Newfoundland, Canada. Picture: Bruce Mactavish. | ||
Kumlien's Gull (kumlieni) 3cy, January 24 2012, St John's, Newfoundland, Canada. Picture: Bruce Mactavish. | ||
Kumlien's Gull (kumlieni) 3cy, January 24 2012, St John's, Newfoundland, Canada. Picture: Bruce Mactavish. | ||
Kumlien's Gull (kumlieni) 3cy, January 22 2012, St John's, Newfoundland, Canada. Picture: Bruce Mactavish. | ||
Kumlien's Gull (kumlieni) 3cy, January 05 2012, St John's, Newfoundland, Canada. Picture: Dave Brown. | ||
Kumlien's Gull (kumlieni) 3cy, January 05 2012, St John's, Newfoundland, Canada. Picture: Dave Brown. | ||
Kumlien's Gull (kumlieni) 3cy, February 16 2012, St John's, Newfoundland, Canada. Picture: Dave Brown. | ||
Kumlien's Gull (kumlieni) 3cy, January 22 2012, St John's, Newfoundland, Canada. Picture: Bruce Mactavish. | ||
Kumlien's Gull (kumlieni) 3cy, January 25 2012, St John's, Newfoundland, Canada. Picture: Dave Brown. | ||
Kumlien's Gull (kumlieni) 3cy, January 24 2012, St John's, Newfoundland, Canada. Picture: Bruce Mactavish. | ||
Kumlien's Gull (kumlieni) 3cy, January 25 2012, St John's, Newfoundland, Canada. Picture: Dave Brown. | ||
Kumlien's Gull (kumlieni) 3cy, January 25 2012, St John's, Newfoundland, Canada. Picture: Dave Brown. | ||
Kumlien's Gull (kumlieni) 3cy, January 22 2012, St John's, Newfoundland, Canada. Picture: Dave Brown. Metal-ringed bird. | ||
Kumlien's Gull (kumlieni) 3cy, January 05 2012, St John's, Newfoundland, Canada. Picture: Dave Brown. | ||
birds with dark outer primaries, classic kumlieni |
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Kumlien's Gull (kumlieni) 3cy, February 14 2012, St John's, Newfoundland, Canada. Picture: Dave Brown. | ||
Kumlien's Gull (kumlieni) 3cy, February 13 2012, St John's, Newfoundland, Canada. Picture: Dave Brown. | ||
Kumlien's Gull (kumlieni) 3cy, January 08 2012, St John's, Newfoundland, Canada. Picture: Dave Brown. | ||
Kumlien's Gull (kumlieni) 3cy, January 24 2012, St John's, Newfoundland, Canada. Picture: Bruce Mactavish. | ||
Kumlien's Gull (kumlieni) 3cy, February 16 2012, St John's, Newfoundland, Canada. Picture: Dave Brown. | ||
Kumlien's Gull (kumlieni) 3cy, January 27 2012, St John's, Newfoundland, Canada. Picture: Bruce Mactavish. | ||
Kumlien's Gull (kumlieni) 3cy, January 24 2012, St John's, Newfoundland, Canada. Picture: Bruce Mactavish. | ||
Kumlien's Gull (kumlieni) 3cy, January 24 2012, St John's, Newfoundland, Canada. Picture: Bruce Mactavish. | ||
Kumlien's Gull (kumlieni) 3cy, January 24 2012, St John's, Newfoundland, Canada. Picture: Bruce Mactavish. | ||
Kumlien's Gull (kumlieni) 3cy, January 22 2012, St John's, Newfoundland, Canada. Picture: Bruce Mactavish. | ||
Kumlien's Gull (kumlieni) 3cy, January 22 2012, St John's, Newfoundland, Canada. Picture: Bruce Mactavish. | ||
Kumlien's Gull (kumlieni) 3cy, January 27 2012, St John's, Newfoundland, Canada. Picture: Bruce Mactavish. | ||
Kumlien's Gull (kumlieni) 3cy, January 22 2012, St John's, Newfoundland, Canada. Picture: Bruce Mactavish. | ||
Kumlien's Gull (kumlieni) 3cy, February 16 2012, St John's, Newfoundland, Canada. Picture: Dave Brown. |